The Science Of Evolution

Questioner: According to Darwin’s theory of evolution,

life develops from a single sensory organism until it reaches the

human form. On the other hand there is the belief that one goes

back to animal form after human birth. Can you clear the

contradiction in these two?

Dadashri: No, there is no contradiction in it. The Theory

of Evolution is correct. But it is only correct up to the point where

it reaches the human form. There is no knowledge about what

happens beyond this point.

Questioner: Is it true that a person can go back into an

animal form from a human form?

Dadashri: First, as it is stated according to Darwin’s

theory, life develops to the point of a human form.

From here onwards, here is my explanation. After coming

to the human form, because of the presence of the ego, he becomes

the doer. He becomes the doer of karmas and this is the cause

and therefore he has to endure the effects of his causes. If he

creates a debit (paap, demerit karma or sins) he reincarnates in

the animal form and if he creates credits (punyas, meritorious

deeds), he is born as a celestial being, or as a human being again,

where he will enjoy material comforts and luxuries. So after coming

into the human form, everything depends upon these debits and

credits.

No More Wombs

Questioner: Is it not said that one has become the human

form after wandering through 8.4 million wombs, and then he has

to undergo the same amount of wandering before he returns to

the human form.

Dadashri: No, it is not like that. Having achieved the human

form once, one does not have to go through the cycle of 8.4

million births again to be born as a human again. If a person has

an animal-like mentality, he will reincarnate in the animal form for

a maximum of eight births. And that too will only be for a period

of one to two hundred years. After that, he returns back to the

human form. Once the human form is achieved, he does not have

to wander 8.4 million lives.

Questioner: Does the same soul wander for 8.4 million

times?

Dadashri: Yes, the same soul.

Questioner: But the Soul is pure, is it not?

Dadashri: The Soul is pure, even now. It has remained

pure even after wandering through 8.4 million wombs. It has

been pure, it is pure and it will always be pure.

Next Life According to Wishes of the Last Hour

Questioner: Is a person’s rebirth based on his desires and

passions present within him at the time of his death?

Dadashri: Yes. But when people say that the person who

died had such and such wishes, such last minute wishes cannot be

created. They occur as a consequence of the balance sheet. It is

the balance sheet of his entire life that comes forward in the final

hour before his death, and it is this balance sheet that determines

which life form he will enter.

From a human to a human?

Questioner: Do humans go only into another human form?

Dadashri: No, you are mistaken. But only a human can

be born from a woman’s womb. A donkey cannot take birth

there. If a person thinks that when he dies, he will return into a

human form, then he is wrong. The fool! If his thinking is

comparable to that of a donkey, how is he going to be born as a

human again? The thoughts he has about depriving others, and

coveting other people’s possessions, will all lead him to the lower

life form.

Questioner: Is there a sequence to a life, that once born

into the human form, it will take you back to the human form, or

does it take you elsewhere?

Dadashri: Once born as a human in Hindustan, one has to

move around in the four different life forms: human, celestial, animal

and hell. Foreigners, who do not believe in reincarnation, are not

subject to this, with the exception of about two to five percent of

the people. They are only going higher.

Questioner: When people refer to Vidhata, whom do they

refer to?

Dadashri: It is nature that they call Vidhata. There is no

such goddess called Vidhata. Scientific circumstantial evidence is

Vidhata. People believe that on the sixth day after the birth of a

baby, Vidhata comes and writes the future life of the newborn

infant. This is correct by their imagination, but not according to

facts.

In reality and according to nature’s law, if you deprive others

of things that you have no right to, then you will go into the animal

form. But even that is not a permanent state. At the most, it will

be for duration of two hundred years or at least for seven to eight

lives before being born as a human. Sometimes it may even be for

as little as five minutes in the animal form before he returns into the

human form. There are some organisms that in a span of one

minute will change seventeen life forms. Therefore not everyone

will spend the maximum time of two hundred years in the animal

form.

One Can Tell Where He Has Come From

Questioner: Give us a scientific proof that will convince

us that a human will take birth into an animal form.

Dadashri: Have you encountered anyone who appears to

be barking like a dog when he speaks? People will say that he is

always barking. He has carried forward these traits from his

previous life as a dog. Some even behave like monkeys, so they

have been monkeys before. Some sit quiet as a cat, ready to

pounce at the slightest opportunity. One can determine where a

person has come from or where he is headed, based on his

characteristic traits. Even so it is not a permanent thing.

People of the current time cycle of Kaliyug do not know

how to sin and yet that is all they do. So what will the fruit of their

deeds be? At the most, they will spend fifty to a hundred years in

the animal form. They will not spend thousands of years there

before they come back as humans. Many even return after

spending just five years in the animal form. So do not consider

their actions as a crime, because these poor people immediately

return back into the human form. It is because their sins are not so

grave.

The Law of Growth and Destruction

Questioner: The human population has continued to

increase, does that mean that the population of the animals is

decreasing?

Dadashri: Yes, that is true. The number of souls remains

the same, but they continue to convert. Sometimes as the human

population increases, the animal population is reduced and vice

versa. This process of conversion continues.

Why do Children Suffer?

Questioner: Why do innocent children have to suffer

physical ailments?

Dadashri: A child suffers the consequences of the effects

of his own karmas and the mother suffers through witnessing it.

The main karma belongs to the child and because the mother had

played a role in supporting that karma, she too has to suffer.

Karmas are bound through the act of doing, through the act of

making others do or through the act of supporting others do the

act.

The Importance of Human Life

One returns into the human form, after having wandered

through other life forms. And it is also through the human form,

that one is released from this cycle of wandering. If one knows

how to fulfill his human birth, then he can achieve liberation but

if he does not, then that life becomes a vehicle for endless

wandering. He dissipates his karmas in all other life forms, but

it is only in the human form that he binds as well as dissipates

karmas.

This human body has been acquired with great difficulty, so

use it to accomplish your work. The soul has spent endless births

to acquire this human body. If only, this body spends onne birth

for the Soul, your work will be done in this very birth.

If as a human one meets a Gnani Purush, then he can acquire

liberation. Even the celestial beings have an intense desire to

acquire a human form. Through establishing a connection with a

Gnani Purush, the body that had been a foe for endless previous

births now becomes an absolute friend. It is through this body

that you have met a Gnani Purush, so get your work done.

Why the Cycle of Birth and Death for the Immortal One?

Questioner: But who has to undergo the cycle of birth

and death?

Dadashri: The cycle of birth and death is for the ego. The

Soul is in its own state. When the ego stops, this cycle also stops.

Thereafter No Fear of Even Death

Questioner: After acquiring Gnan one experiences bliss.

Is this only for this birth or for all the births to come?

Dadashri: It is permanent. After Gnan, one becomes a

non-doer and consequently will not bind new karmas. He will

attain moksha within one or two births. There is no choice in the

matter. This path is not for those who do not desire liberation.

Those who do not like liberation should not take this path.

Questioner: Will we remember this Gnan in our next life?

Dadashri: Everything will be the same. There will be no

changes. Because you have stopped binding new karmas, no

confusion will ever arise again.

Questioner: So does that mean that in our past lives, we

have created karmas, which continue to perpetuate the confusion?

Dadashri: In your past lives, karmas were bound because

of your ignorance of your real Self and in this life you are

experiencing the effect of those karmas. The effects have to be

endured. If a person has not met a Gnani, he will continue to bind

new causes simultaneously as he is faced to endure the effects of

his past karma. The causes he creates in this life will result as

effects in his next life. And thus the cycle of cause and effect,

effect and cause will continue, until he meets a Gnani Purush. The

Gnani Purush puts a stop to the creation of causes and all that

remains will be the effects, which one will have to endure. New

karmas will no longer be bound.

Therefore, not only will you remember this entire Gnan, but

also you will become the embodiment of that Gnan. Then you will

not fear anything.