There is Saiyam Where There is no Artadhyan-Raudradhyan
To be in saiyam over mithyatva (angerpride-deceit-greed arising over wrong belief) is referred to as saiyam. Here, people openly display their deluded belief, and overtly engage in anger-pride-deceit-greed. Even if deluded belief has left, the Lord has said that is not saiyam, it cannot be referred to as saiyam even then.
Saiyam is when anger-pride-deceit-greed leave. Until then, there is permanent right Vision (samkit); then deluded belief has left, but that is not saiyam. Even if the right Vision arises, the Lord does not count that as saiyam.
On the basis of our Akram Vignan, through which artadhyan (meditation that hurts the self) and raudradhyan (mediation that hurts the self and others) go away, that is called saiyam.
Where artadhyan and raudradhyan do not happen, that is called saiyam. Artadhyan and raudradhyan do not happen for our mahatmas (those who haveattained Self-realization).
Gusso (egoless anger) does happen towards people, but artadhyan and raudradhyan do not happen. And for whomever artadhyan and raudradhyan have stopped, that person (mahatma) is referred to as saiyami. That is saiyam like that of the Lord. Right now if someone were to swear at ‘Chandubhai’, then the force of saiyam would immediately arise, wouldn’t it?
As soon as they swear, saiyam immediately results, asaiyam (kashaya effects) does not happen. What happens to (the people of) the world when getting sworn at? Raudradhyan (meditation that hurts the self and others) arises. And what happens to you? Saiyam parinam (the resultant state free of anger-pride-deceit-greed) arises. Therefore, saiyam parinam constantly prevails, doesn’t it?
Questioner: Yes. Dadashri: That is constant saiyam parinam; that is indeed the means to take one to liberation. Whereas (from the worldly perspective), that which is visible to the eyes is considered saiyam. All of the hundreds of thousands of people refer to such a person as saiyamdhari, and not one person would refer to you (as a saiyamdhari). There is saiyam parinam on the basis of this light (of Knowledge) that has arisen. All the mahatmas have constant saiyam parinam, all twenty-four hours.
If you swear at them, saiyam parinam immediately comes forth for them. That is indeed saiyam.
Questioner: That is true. Here, that Knowledge (Gnan) is at work.
Dadashri: The Knowledge is constantly at work. The Knowledge is at work without halting for a moment. From the moment saiyam arises, one is referred to as an avatari Purush (one with few lives remaining until final liberation). Whoever has saiyam is referred to as an avatari from that moment.
Questioner: Then all these monks and saints (sadhu-sant), are they considered saiyami Purush or not?
Dadashri: A saiyami Purush is not found at any place. From where can saiyami Purush be brought? These (people) are considered saints. Those saints have very good intentions for how people can be improved, and if they are on the wrong path, how they can be brought to the right path.
Nevertheless, how can there be saiyam? Saiyam is no child’s play.
To be in saiyam over mithyatva (angerpride-deceit-greed arising over wrong belief) is referred to as saiyam. Here, people openly display their deluded belief, and overtly engage in anger-pride-deceit-greed. Even if deluded belief has left, the Lord has said that is not saiyam, it cannot be referred to as saiyam even then.
Saiyam is when anger-pride-deceit-greed leave. Until then, there is permanent right Vision (samkit); then deluded belief has left, but that is not saiyam. Even if the right Vision arises, the Lord does not count that as saiyam.
On the basis of our Akram Vignan, through which artadhyan (meditation that hurts the self) and raudradhyan (mediation that hurts the self and others) go away, that is called saiyam.
Where artadhyan and raudradhyan do not happen, that is called saiyam. Artadhyan and raudradhyan do not happen for our mahatmas (those who haveattained Self-realization).
Gusso (egoless anger) does happen towards people, but artadhyan and raudradhyan do not happen. And for whomever artadhyan and raudradhyan have stopped, that person (mahatma) is referred to as saiyami. That is saiyam like that of the Lord. Right now if someone were to swear at ‘Chandubhai’, then the force of saiyam would immediately arise, wouldn’t it?
As soon as they swear, saiyam immediately results, asaiyam (kashaya effects) does not happen. What happens to (the people of) the world when getting sworn at? Raudradhyan (meditation that hurts the self and others) arises. And what happens to you? Saiyam parinam (the resultant state free of anger-pride-deceit-greed) arises. Therefore, saiyam parinam constantly prevails, doesn’t it?
Questioner: Yes. Dadashri: That is constant saiyam parinam; that is indeed the means to take one to liberation. Whereas (from the worldly perspective), that which is visible to the eyes is considered saiyam. All of the hundreds of thousands of people refer to such a person as saiyamdhari, and not one person would refer to you (as a saiyamdhari). There is saiyam parinam on the basis of this light (of Knowledge) that has arisen. All the mahatmas have constant saiyam parinam, all twenty-four hours.
If you swear at them, saiyam parinam immediately comes forth for them. That is indeed saiyam.
Questioner: That is true. Here, that Knowledge (Gnan) is at work.
Dadashri: The Knowledge is constantly at work. The Knowledge is at work without halting for a moment. From the moment saiyam arises, one is referred to as an avatari Purush (one with few lives remaining until final liberation). Whoever has saiyam is referred to as an avatari from that moment.
Questioner: Then all these monks and saints (sadhu-sant), are they considered saiyami Purush or not?
Dadashri: A saiyami Purush is not found at any place. From where can saiyami Purush be brought? These (people) are considered saints. Those saints have very good intentions for how people can be improved, and if they are on the wrong path, how they can be brought to the right path.
Nevertheless, how can there be saiyam? Saiyam is no child’s play.
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